alisa
02-11 03:56 PM
By doing what you are suggesting
a) you take numbers away from EB-3 ROW and hurt them
b) you don't do any benefit whatsoever to EB-3 India/China
c) you only benefit EB-2 India/China (at the expense of EB-3 ROW)
So, you make no difference whatsoever to huge number of EB-applicants (b), and you benefit (c) at the expense of (a).
I hope you see that this is not a good solution for the majority of EB-applicants. With this kind of cannibalization, the only people who have any incentive to stay with IV would be EB-2 India/China.
We have to work to increase the size of the pie here, and not engage in a zero sum game.
It says "not required by other classes". In this case it is required but could not be applied to EB2 due to per country numerical limits. Therefore it should go to unused pool of visas followed by AC21. Also why will USCIS prefer EB3 instead of EB2 people? It does not make sense.
As far as suing the govt is concerned we all know what happened to doctors in the UK.. so this is will be a futile exercise.
a) you take numbers away from EB-3 ROW and hurt them
b) you don't do any benefit whatsoever to EB-3 India/China
c) you only benefit EB-2 India/China (at the expense of EB-3 ROW)
So, you make no difference whatsoever to huge number of EB-applicants (b), and you benefit (c) at the expense of (a).
I hope you see that this is not a good solution for the majority of EB-applicants. With this kind of cannibalization, the only people who have any incentive to stay with IV would be EB-2 India/China.
We have to work to increase the size of the pie here, and not engage in a zero sum game.
It says "not required by other classes". In this case it is required but could not be applied to EB2 due to per country numerical limits. Therefore it should go to unused pool of visas followed by AC21. Also why will USCIS prefer EB3 instead of EB2 people? It does not make sense.
As far as suing the govt is concerned we all know what happened to doctors in the UK.. so this is will be a futile exercise.
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vinayak2008
01-01 01:46 AM
Hi,I had my H1 revalidation visa approved on Dec 18th at chennai consulate but I have not received my passports till today (more than 7 working days).
It seems PIMS check is happening only at chennai consulate in india.At mumbai consulate one of friend got passports on the same ay.
It seems PIMS check is happening only at chennai consulate in india.At mumbai consulate one of friend got passports on the same ay.
bsnf
07-15 09:31 PM
Done
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uumapathi
05-26 03:05 PM
This bill is only for FB. IV has to give some direction on this bill so that we can push to include EB too in the bill.
(b) Worldwide Level of Employment-Based Immigrants- Section 201(d) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1151(d)) is amended to read as follows:
`(d) Worldwide Level of Employment-Based Immigrants-
`(1) IN GENERAL- The worldwide level of employment-based immigrants under this subsection for a fiscal year is equal to the sum of--
`(A) 140,000;
`(B) the number computed under paragraph (2); and
`(C) the number computed under paragraph (3).
`(2) UNUSED VISA NUMBERS FROM PREVIOUS FISCAL YEAR- The number computed under this paragraph for a fiscal year is the difference, if any, between--
`(A) the worldwide level of employment-based immigrant visas established for the previous fiscal year; and
`(B) the number of visas issued under section 203(b), subject to this subsection, during the previous fiscal year.
`(3) UNUSED VISA NUMBERS FROM FISCAL YEARS 1992 THROUGH 2007- The number computed under this paragraph is the difference, if any, between--
`(A) the difference, if any, between--
`(i) the sum of the worldwide levels of employment-based immigrant visas established for each of fiscal years 1992 through 2007; and
`(ii) the number of visas issued under section 203(b), subject to this subsection, during such fiscal years; and
`(B) the number of unused visas from fiscal years 1992 through 2007 that were issued after fiscal year 2007 under section 203(b), subject to this subsection.'.
(c) Effective Date- The amendments made by this section shall take effect on the date which is 60 days after the date of the enactment of this Act.
Looks like EB visas are recaptured and fed into EB pool.
(b) Worldwide Level of Employment-Based Immigrants- Section 201(d) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1151(d)) is amended to read as follows:
`(d) Worldwide Level of Employment-Based Immigrants-
`(1) IN GENERAL- The worldwide level of employment-based immigrants under this subsection for a fiscal year is equal to the sum of--
`(A) 140,000;
`(B) the number computed under paragraph (2); and
`(C) the number computed under paragraph (3).
`(2) UNUSED VISA NUMBERS FROM PREVIOUS FISCAL YEAR- The number computed under this paragraph for a fiscal year is the difference, if any, between--
`(A) the worldwide level of employment-based immigrant visas established for the previous fiscal year; and
`(B) the number of visas issued under section 203(b), subject to this subsection, during the previous fiscal year.
`(3) UNUSED VISA NUMBERS FROM FISCAL YEARS 1992 THROUGH 2007- The number computed under this paragraph is the difference, if any, between--
`(A) the difference, if any, between--
`(i) the sum of the worldwide levels of employment-based immigrant visas established for each of fiscal years 1992 through 2007; and
`(ii) the number of visas issued under section 203(b), subject to this subsection, during such fiscal years; and
`(B) the number of unused visas from fiscal years 1992 through 2007 that were issued after fiscal year 2007 under section 203(b), subject to this subsection.'.
(c) Effective Date- The amendments made by this section shall take effect on the date which is 60 days after the date of the enactment of this Act.
Looks like EB visas are recaptured and fed into EB pool.
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go_guy123
02-02 01:50 PM
excpet for Directors and above.
They don't pay taxes, etc etc. It is being mis-utilized by all companies.
IBM brings people on L1 @ 60K
They don't pay taxes, etc etc. It is being mis-utilized by all companies.
IBM brings people on L1 @ 60K
SFSweta
08-18 02:38 PM
Hi everyone,
I just called everyone on the list.
The one thing I felt once my part was done was my sense of accomplishment - I helped - in the smallest way possible. Trust me - while I consider myself blessed when I read some of our members' story - I still feel like my battle to reaching this point is very poignant.
Call - feel good on a Monday (which usually is SUCH the worst day ever of the week for me:).
Thanks for your help with this and all the best with your greencard application...
___________________
PD: July 2006
RD: July 2nd 2007
ND: August 10 2007
I140 Approved March 2007
I485 - LUD Aug 31 2007
I just called everyone on the list.
The one thing I felt once my part was done was my sense of accomplishment - I helped - in the smallest way possible. Trust me - while I consider myself blessed when I read some of our members' story - I still feel like my battle to reaching this point is very poignant.
Call - feel good on a Monday (which usually is SUCH the worst day ever of the week for me:).
Thanks for your help with this and all the best with your greencard application...
___________________
PD: July 2006
RD: July 2nd 2007
ND: August 10 2007
I140 Approved March 2007
I485 - LUD Aug 31 2007
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msp1976
02-07 01:12 PM
Thank you for your elaboration.
How do you know that all the unused visas go to EB3 before go to EB2?
That is the way the USCIS is interpreting the laws and actually doing it that way...There are two different caps applied to you....The EB2 cap of wharever numbers available and the country cap of 7% for all of china EB+FB combined together.......It is true that there are more EB2 numbers available...But as the country quota for CHINA/India is over they are flowing to EB3 ROW instead of flowing horizontally to EB2 china....There is a big discussion about how this flow occurs and if it is fair or not...The title of that thread is 'Unused visas' Reading that would be helpful to you...
Even if the immigration reform happens, will it take effect next year or sometime later?
Frankly donot know....Last year when they passed 2611 they had put conditions in it to delay the implementation..They can put delay again...That is possible....
How come my PD can become current immediately once the immigration reform happens?
The total number of visa available would increase with the immigration reform...There would be enough unused so that you would get some...
thanks1
How do you know that all the unused visas go to EB3 before go to EB2?
That is the way the USCIS is interpreting the laws and actually doing it that way...There are two different caps applied to you....The EB2 cap of wharever numbers available and the country cap of 7% for all of china EB+FB combined together.......It is true that there are more EB2 numbers available...But as the country quota for CHINA/India is over they are flowing to EB3 ROW instead of flowing horizontally to EB2 china....There is a big discussion about how this flow occurs and if it is fair or not...The title of that thread is 'Unused visas' Reading that would be helpful to you...
Even if the immigration reform happens, will it take effect next year or sometime later?
Frankly donot know....Last year when they passed 2611 they had put conditions in it to delay the implementation..They can put delay again...That is possible....
How come my PD can become current immediately once the immigration reform happens?
The total number of visa available would increase with the immigration reform...There would be enough unused so that you would get some...
thanks1
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kavita
12-30 11:26 AM
www.change.gov is open for questions: round two.
You can post a question and vote on others' questions.
We may not lead in voting or number of questions, but still should do our best. Lets not give an impression to this transition team that EB immigrants are not suffering from backlogs or are not concerned enough.
You can post a question and vote on others' questions.
We may not lead in voting or number of questions, but still should do our best. Lets not give an impression to this transition team that EB immigrants are not suffering from backlogs or are not concerned enough.
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Bloomington
12-13 12:09 PM
will you be a member? I would propose we charge a mere $25 fee for registering and then monthly contribution of say $25. Then we run special funding drives for lobbying when ever required. Will you be a paid member to come out of GC mess?
Please participate in the poll.
No...Because this is FOREM a please where people express their opinion ….if you commercialize .will loss purpose. Not a good idea.
Please participate in the poll.
No...Because this is FOREM a please where people express their opinion ….if you commercialize .will loss purpose. Not a good idea.
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yabadaba
11-02 04:18 PM
khodalmd...u already got your greencard. stop trolling the IV boards...thanks to uncle toms like you we were not able to get a foothold when we had a chance last year. why r u still here if u have ur GC?
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hpandey
03-29 09:30 AM
It is possible INS can track you down using posts here as you seem to be illegally here in the US. I wouldnt be advising anything to you as you are an illegal alien.
At least one person is doing the right thing and you are asking him to be a coward ? What will INS do after tracking him down ?
INS can't even track down the 12 million "really illegal " aliens that you and I see everyday around us and they will waste their time going after this guy who has already left the country.
Get a grip on practical things in life.
The employer should most certainly be reported to DOL for fraud.
At least one person is doing the right thing and you are asking him to be a coward ? What will INS do after tracking him down ?
INS can't even track down the 12 million "really illegal " aliens that you and I see everyday around us and they will waste their time going after this guy who has already left the country.
Get a grip on practical things in life.
The employer should most certainly be reported to DOL for fraud.
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drsyedhigh5
01-09 08:38 PM
...
Lets start writing to all the supporters once again. HIghlight housing crisis, also can request premium processing for 485. Make sure we show the immediate and long term benefits....
Buddy Sri, thanks for mentioning GC premium processing, please check my following link/messages ("How about PP for GC"):
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=22981
(I got thrashed for suggesting it:()
Lets start writing to all the supporters once again. HIghlight housing crisis, also can request premium processing for 485. Make sure we show the immediate and long term benefits....
Buddy Sri, thanks for mentioning GC premium processing, please check my following link/messages ("How about PP for GC"):
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=22981
(I got thrashed for suggesting it:()
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feedfront
08-18 04:00 PM
But, when will my time come to apply?? :confused:
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sanju
09-24 12:08 AM
so let me understand it, you are saying that you don't agree with something that's why it has got to be wrong. Its not wrong because it is wrong, but its wrong because you don't support it. Is that right? And because you don't support it, it has got to be unfair and that's why its wrong. Isn't that what you just said?
I made the post there. Since you are making some funny comments along with clarification, not sure if you are really looking for the information. But here goes
1) Removal of per-country quota: Claimed to be fair for everyone. Not really. It only helps Indians and Chinese. ROW will see a serious degradation in the time they will get their GCs. I am sure there will be lots of bashing based on this, but the fact of the matter is that such action is not suitable for non I/C applicants.
2) The Rich guy comment is based on the latest (supposedly supported by the CORE no less) action which is to ask for legislative changes if you have money to throw in to buy a house with 20% down.
So yes, I do stand by my statement that IV is devolving into less than general purpose immigration group.
I am EB3-India, yet I dont support the removal of per country limits, as there is a reason for the diversity rule, Indians and Chinese are currently on the wrong side of the equation so it seems "fair" to remove the quota.
I made the post there. Since you are making some funny comments along with clarification, not sure if you are really looking for the information. But here goes
1) Removal of per-country quota: Claimed to be fair for everyone. Not really. It only helps Indians and Chinese. ROW will see a serious degradation in the time they will get their GCs. I am sure there will be lots of bashing based on this, but the fact of the matter is that such action is not suitable for non I/C applicants.
2) The Rich guy comment is based on the latest (supposedly supported by the CORE no less) action which is to ask for legislative changes if you have money to throw in to buy a house with 20% down.
So yes, I do stand by my statement that IV is devolving into less than general purpose immigration group.
I am EB3-India, yet I dont support the removal of per country limits, as there is a reason for the diversity rule, Indians and Chinese are currently on the wrong side of the equation so it seems "fair" to remove the quota.
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ab_tak_chappan
08-13 06:51 PM
chaanakya i fully agree with your assessment!
Yes, that is right, I said �plight of EB2-India�.
I am a passive observer of these forums. But some of the ridiculous notions floating around here have motivated me to vent. First and foremost, the law as written is highly favorable to people in EB3 categories, even from India. Here is how...
Take my example (and there are thousands like myself)....came to the US 8 years ago, spent 5 years working day and night to earn a PhD on a low (barely sustainable) stipend, got FIRST job saw decent money for the first time 6 years after I came.
Now, compare this to a person working an EB3-job for the last 8 years. Not only does this person do a real job that hopefully provides a respectable income but this person also has the option of moving to EB2 after 5 years of experience. So, at the end of the day in 2008; this person comes out ahead of me in terms of money, in terms of priority date (if ported) and most likely in terms of GC.
There are complaints all over the forum which have the stink of pretentiousness such as �oh..i am a poor EB3 waiting for n number of years� etc etc. What you guys seem to forget is that YOU are NOT an EB3, it is your JOB that is EB3. You have all the opportunities that were/are available to a person who sweated it out in the university system here to gain more qualifications and get an EB2 job. You CHOSE not to. The general discussion seems to center around cribbing about the US immigration system (Immigration by the way is a privilege defined by laws, not a birthright) and then blaming the EB2 crowd when they finally see the system implement the law as intended in the first place (horizontal spillover rules).
All these posts that refer to �my career is over because my gc is delayed� are nothing but a pathetic excuse. Law of supply and demand....if you have a skillset that is valuable, you will be fine with or without GC anywhere in the world. It takes a bunch of documents to remain here legally, all you need is a passport to go back if the system here seems so bad.
For all the attacks that are bound to happen, here is the fodder.....this is probably my first and last post, I haven�t contributed a dime to IV, will work here as long as I like it and if not, India is a great country and provides enough opportunities for any skillset !!
Yes, that is right, I said �plight of EB2-India�.
I am a passive observer of these forums. But some of the ridiculous notions floating around here have motivated me to vent. First and foremost, the law as written is highly favorable to people in EB3 categories, even from India. Here is how...
Take my example (and there are thousands like myself)....came to the US 8 years ago, spent 5 years working day and night to earn a PhD on a low (barely sustainable) stipend, got FIRST job saw decent money for the first time 6 years after I came.
Now, compare this to a person working an EB3-job for the last 8 years. Not only does this person do a real job that hopefully provides a respectable income but this person also has the option of moving to EB2 after 5 years of experience. So, at the end of the day in 2008; this person comes out ahead of me in terms of money, in terms of priority date (if ported) and most likely in terms of GC.
There are complaints all over the forum which have the stink of pretentiousness such as �oh..i am a poor EB3 waiting for n number of years� etc etc. What you guys seem to forget is that YOU are NOT an EB3, it is your JOB that is EB3. You have all the opportunities that were/are available to a person who sweated it out in the university system here to gain more qualifications and get an EB2 job. You CHOSE not to. The general discussion seems to center around cribbing about the US immigration system (Immigration by the way is a privilege defined by laws, not a birthright) and then blaming the EB2 crowd when they finally see the system implement the law as intended in the first place (horizontal spillover rules).
All these posts that refer to �my career is over because my gc is delayed� are nothing but a pathetic excuse. Law of supply and demand....if you have a skillset that is valuable, you will be fine with or without GC anywhere in the world. It takes a bunch of documents to remain here legally, all you need is a passport to go back if the system here seems so bad.
For all the attacks that are bound to happen, here is the fodder.....this is probably my first and last post, I haven�t contributed a dime to IV, will work here as long as I like it and if not, India is a great country and provides enough opportunities for any skillset !!
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sdrblr
09-15 10:17 AM
I sent it.
OR the lawyer has to send this email...very trivial question but I did not get that from your post. Thanks for sending this along...I dont know if many of us knew. Thanks again.
OR the lawyer has to send this email...very trivial question but I did not get that from your post. Thanks for sending this along...I dont know if many of us knew. Thanks again.
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satishku_2000
05-24 08:29 PM
Any one one knew if this H1B fee increase applies for 1 year extensions too if the bill gets passed in the current form?
They should make H1s valid only for 3 months so that they can have a constant source of income to fund the INS that needs so much money going forward to legalize 20 million people.
They should make H1s valid only for 3 months so that they can have a constant source of income to fund the INS that needs so much money going forward to legalize 20 million people.
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05-31 09:03 PM
Put it on a white background and I bet it'll look heaps better.
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03-14 09:57 AM
D. INDIA EMPLOYMENT SECOND PREFERENCE VISA AVAILABILITY
Section 202(a)(5) of the Immigration and Nationality Act provides that if total demand will be insufficient to use all available numbers in a particular Employment preference category in a calendar quarter, then the unused numbers may be made available without regard to the annual �per-country� limit. It has been determined that based on the current level of demand being received, primarily by Citizenship and Immigration Services Offices, there would be otherwise unused numbers in the Employment Second preference category. As a result, numbers have once again become available to the India Employment Second preference category. The rate of number use in the Employment Second preference category will continue to be monitored, and it may be necessary to make adjustments should the level of demand increase substantially.
May be EB2 India and China can see some movement in July VB published in June.
Section 202(a)(5) of the Immigration and Nationality Act provides that if total demand will be insufficient to use all available numbers in a particular Employment preference category in a calendar quarter, then the unused numbers may be made available without regard to the annual �per-country� limit. It has been determined that based on the current level of demand being received, primarily by Citizenship and Immigration Services Offices, there would be otherwise unused numbers in the Employment Second preference category. As a result, numbers have once again become available to the India Employment Second preference category. The rate of number use in the Employment Second preference category will continue to be monitored, and it may be necessary to make adjustments should the level of demand increase substantially.
May be EB2 India and China can see some movement in July VB published in June.
anzerraja
07-20 10:24 AM
We are waiting for the word from core team members on this important issue. No response yet.
Hi Everybody it is a great idea to reimburse aman. Absolutely we have to do it through IV. it is not good idea giving personal checks. what happens when Aman submits his federal taxes. he has to mention everything about the money trail. In America everything should be trailable especially money matters.
giving money through IV is safe for him and for everybody and there is an accountablity everywhere. As a core member he can collect his administrative costs.
So whatever the pledge amouts we are doing should be sent to IV then to Aman.
Any suggestions......
Hi Everybody it is a great idea to reimburse aman. Absolutely we have to do it through IV. it is not good idea giving personal checks. what happens when Aman submits his federal taxes. he has to mention everything about the money trail. In America everything should be trailable especially money matters.
giving money through IV is safe for him and for everybody and there is an accountablity everywhere. As a core member he can collect his administrative costs.
So whatever the pledge amouts we are doing should be sent to IV then to Aman.
Any suggestions......
days_go_by
09-13 07:40 PM
But, can i do a small change that "approximately 500,000 potential buyers stranded to invest around $100 Billions in Housing market(assuming that average price of home @$200,000)"
In the housing market terms, $100 Billions is a kicker and no doubt a Winning argument.
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sure, we are struggling to raise 200K for IV's cause and u are talking about raising $100, billion. Housing industry cannot save us, IT has pretty strong lobbying clout, lets concentrate our efforts on IT industry.
In the housing market terms, $100 Billions is a kicker and no doubt a Winning argument.
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sure, we are struggling to raise 200K for IV's cause and u are talking about raising $100, billion. Housing industry cannot save us, IT has pretty strong lobbying clout, lets concentrate our efforts on IT industry.
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