sobers
02-24 09:29 AM
I'm not sure of exactly what all this contains berkeleybee...this one is so new that's its even not on the Thomas Register.
Talking of our proposed rally March 13, look how proactive even Illegals are...in this case Irish..
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Irish Pack Woodside Rally For Immigration Reform
Queens Chronicle ^ | February 23, 2006 | Ron Brownlow
Posted on 02/23/2006 11:56:18 AM PST by Sharks
Rallying under the slogan �No Paddy Left Behind,� about 900 Irish and Irish-Americans packed a town hall meeting in Woodside on immigration reform Friday evening. Speakers urged the audience, many of whom are undocumented immigrants, to call their elected officials in support of the Kennedy-McCain immigration reform bill. Currently before the Senate, the measure would allow undocumented immigrants to remain in the United States and earn a chance to apply for permanent residency. An alternative bill that already passed the House of Representatives would turn the country�s 11 million undocumented immigrants into criminals, subject to arrest by local authorities. �If you are an undocumented immigrant in the United States, at the moment you have two choices: You can either stay put and hide, or you can lose everything you have,� said Kelly Fincham, executive directors of the newly formed Irish Lobby for Immigration Reform, which organized the meeting at St. Mary�s Help of Christians Catholic Church. Fincham urged those in attendance, even ones who cannot vote, to call or e-mail their U.S. senators and representatives and ask them to vote for the Kennedy-McCain bill. �Do you really want your future to be decided behind closed doors in Washington, or do you want to have a voice?� she asked. An early indicator of the success of her group, formed in December, was the attendance of U.S. Sen. Charles Schumer, who received a standing ovation after addressing the Friday meeting. �If we were to cut off immigration in this country within two, three or four generations, we would become a tired, stagnant, stratified society,� he said. New York �is a special place because of immigration and the worst we could do is close the door,� he added. Other speakers at the meeting urged audience members to sign up and bring their friends to a March 8 bus trip to lobby Congress in Washington, D.C. Groups from cities such as Boston will also be bused in. �This is about living a normal life without fear so you can go and enjoy life in the greatest country on earth,� said Naill O�Doud, chairman of the Irish Lobby for Immigration Reform. Congress is expected to pass sweeping immigration reform legislation later this year affecting America�s estimated 11 million undocumented immigrants, of whom around 40,000 are Irish. One version, which already passed the House of Representatives, is an �enforcement only� bill sponsored by Representatives James Sensenbrenner (R-Wis.) and Peter King (R-N.Y.). Known as the Border Protection, Antiterrorism, and Illegal Immigration Control Act, the measure makes it harder for legal permanent residents to become U.S. citizens by allowing government officials to deny naturalization applications based on subjective information or secret evidence. The measure intensifies sanctions against employers who hire undocumented immigrants and requires them to confirm the authenticity of their workers� Social Security numbers. It gives local police the power to enforce immigration laws and penalizes states and cities that protect confidentiality of immigrant crime victims and witnesses. Other provisions would make drunken driving a deportable offense and mandate the construction of five double-layer border fences at a cost of $3.2 million per mile. The Kennedy-McCain bill, known as the Secure America and Orderly Immigration Act, was introduced before the Senate last year by Senators Edward Kennedy (D-Mass.) and John McCain (R-Ariz.). The measure would permit undocumented or �illegal� immigrants currently living in America to obtain work visas for up to six years. They could apply for permanent residency after paying fines, passing a background check and completing a period under a temporary visa. The bill would also create a new path to legal immigration through a temporary worker program. Undocumented Irish immigrants present at the meeting said current laws prevent them from returning home to visit family. They pay taxes, but cannot apply for health insurance or open bank accounts, much less obtain a driver�s license. One had a nursing degree from a local university but could not work as a nurse because she had overstayed her visa. Another told similar stories of friends who had advanced degrees but could only find work as laborers. �You�re nervous all the time. You�re always looking over your shoulder,� he said.
For more information on the March 8 bus trip to Washington, D.C., call (718) 821 4964, e-mail signup@irishlobbyusa.org, or log on at www.irishlobbyusa.org.
Talking of our proposed rally March 13, look how proactive even Illegals are...in this case Irish..
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Irish Pack Woodside Rally For Immigration Reform
Queens Chronicle ^ | February 23, 2006 | Ron Brownlow
Posted on 02/23/2006 11:56:18 AM PST by Sharks
Rallying under the slogan �No Paddy Left Behind,� about 900 Irish and Irish-Americans packed a town hall meeting in Woodside on immigration reform Friday evening. Speakers urged the audience, many of whom are undocumented immigrants, to call their elected officials in support of the Kennedy-McCain immigration reform bill. Currently before the Senate, the measure would allow undocumented immigrants to remain in the United States and earn a chance to apply for permanent residency. An alternative bill that already passed the House of Representatives would turn the country�s 11 million undocumented immigrants into criminals, subject to arrest by local authorities. �If you are an undocumented immigrant in the United States, at the moment you have two choices: You can either stay put and hide, or you can lose everything you have,� said Kelly Fincham, executive directors of the newly formed Irish Lobby for Immigration Reform, which organized the meeting at St. Mary�s Help of Christians Catholic Church. Fincham urged those in attendance, even ones who cannot vote, to call or e-mail their U.S. senators and representatives and ask them to vote for the Kennedy-McCain bill. �Do you really want your future to be decided behind closed doors in Washington, or do you want to have a voice?� she asked. An early indicator of the success of her group, formed in December, was the attendance of U.S. Sen. Charles Schumer, who received a standing ovation after addressing the Friday meeting. �If we were to cut off immigration in this country within two, three or four generations, we would become a tired, stagnant, stratified society,� he said. New York �is a special place because of immigration and the worst we could do is close the door,� he added. Other speakers at the meeting urged audience members to sign up and bring their friends to a March 8 bus trip to lobby Congress in Washington, D.C. Groups from cities such as Boston will also be bused in. �This is about living a normal life without fear so you can go and enjoy life in the greatest country on earth,� said Naill O�Doud, chairman of the Irish Lobby for Immigration Reform. Congress is expected to pass sweeping immigration reform legislation later this year affecting America�s estimated 11 million undocumented immigrants, of whom around 40,000 are Irish. One version, which already passed the House of Representatives, is an �enforcement only� bill sponsored by Representatives James Sensenbrenner (R-Wis.) and Peter King (R-N.Y.). Known as the Border Protection, Antiterrorism, and Illegal Immigration Control Act, the measure makes it harder for legal permanent residents to become U.S. citizens by allowing government officials to deny naturalization applications based on subjective information or secret evidence. The measure intensifies sanctions against employers who hire undocumented immigrants and requires them to confirm the authenticity of their workers� Social Security numbers. It gives local police the power to enforce immigration laws and penalizes states and cities that protect confidentiality of immigrant crime victims and witnesses. Other provisions would make drunken driving a deportable offense and mandate the construction of five double-layer border fences at a cost of $3.2 million per mile. The Kennedy-McCain bill, known as the Secure America and Orderly Immigration Act, was introduced before the Senate last year by Senators Edward Kennedy (D-Mass.) and John McCain (R-Ariz.). The measure would permit undocumented or �illegal� immigrants currently living in America to obtain work visas for up to six years. They could apply for permanent residency after paying fines, passing a background check and completing a period under a temporary visa. The bill would also create a new path to legal immigration through a temporary worker program. Undocumented Irish immigrants present at the meeting said current laws prevent them from returning home to visit family. They pay taxes, but cannot apply for health insurance or open bank accounts, much less obtain a driver�s license. One had a nursing degree from a local university but could not work as a nurse because she had overstayed her visa. Another told similar stories of friends who had advanced degrees but could only find work as laborers. �You�re nervous all the time. You�re always looking over your shoulder,� he said.
For more information on the March 8 bus trip to Washington, D.C., call (718) 821 4964, e-mail signup@irishlobbyusa.org, or log on at www.irishlobbyusa.org.
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checklaw
07-19 08:49 AM
"Quote:
Originally Posted by azharuddinm
Pd: Jun 2006
Reached Nebraska: 7/2 10:25 am
Rejected: Don Know
Ck Cashed: Not Yet
Name of the person signed: J.BARRRET "
I do have the same name.
Me too.
Originally Posted by azharuddinm
Pd: Jun 2006
Reached Nebraska: 7/2 10:25 am
Rejected: Don Know
Ck Cashed: Not Yet
Name of the person signed: J.BARRRET "
I do have the same name.
Me too.
hope4gc
04-19 07:26 AM
Jimmy,
Did you change employer when you ported from eb3 to eb2, or stayed with the same employer?
Did you change employer when you ported from eb3 to eb2, or stayed with the same employer?
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meg_z
02-28 03:19 PM
I think the memo everyne is refering to is Cronin memo. Here is the link. https://www.shusterman.com/cronin51600.html. I-94 date after using AP is one year from entry date, at least in my case.
Can you please provide a link to this memo ? My attorney said, if I want to continue on H1 after reentry, I must get H1 stamped and enter in H status. If I use AP for reentry, I should change to EAD at work. This memo will help.
I know there is a memo about continuing on H1B after filing I485 (dual intent) in the context of AC21 , but I am not aware about one that deals with entering with AP and continuing on H1.
Most of the answers above talk about transferring/extending the H1 after the reentry to get a new I94. How about if you want to continue with the same employer and you already have H1 valid until 2011 ? Do you still apply for H1 extension ? If so what basis ?
Do they enter a validity date on I94 when we enter using AP ? If so what date would that be ?
What is the significance of this date on I94 when one wants to use EAD and never goes back to H1 ?
Can you please provide a link to this memo ? My attorney said, if I want to continue on H1 after reentry, I must get H1 stamped and enter in H status. If I use AP for reentry, I should change to EAD at work. This memo will help.
I know there is a memo about continuing on H1B after filing I485 (dual intent) in the context of AC21 , but I am not aware about one that deals with entering with AP and continuing on H1.
Most of the answers above talk about transferring/extending the H1 after the reentry to get a new I94. How about if you want to continue with the same employer and you already have H1 valid until 2011 ? Do you still apply for H1 extension ? If so what basis ?
Do they enter a validity date on I94 when we enter using AP ? If so what date would that be ?
What is the significance of this date on I94 when one wants to use EAD and never goes back to H1 ?
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07-10 11:30 AM
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"I really can't go in to details, but the information is reliable."
jthomas
05-13 07:17 PM
I agree with nitinboston, Forget the haters.
We have to do something.If things work much better than waiting for GC just head over there. There are tremendous oppurinities available. US GC is not the perfect thing to get in life. People like Dhuribhai Ambani, Tata etc... did not work for their American GC. Keep your eyes open and keep on researching with different options.
Regarding IT, I don't think IT guys can only work on IT. you can study something new, change your field and be someone everybody would respect. Some of them in IV have stuidied in IITs, have double master degrees from US and waiting in a que. Start a business, have some goals rather than predicting about visa bulletin.
Majority of you are from India. In India you can hire engineers at a very low salary. I have employees working for me in India for Rs3.5K a month(non-tech) and Graduate enginers working for a salary of 5K/ month. If some of us can outsource jobs in India we would be millionaires within few years.
We are highly skilled immigrants, Can't we make a group and do conusltancy. The consultancy charges for a hour is $570/- in intoto.com where the actual engineer gets $120/- per hour.
Who would care about anti-immigrants, PD dates, etc.. if we can be someone would be like Dhuribhai Ambani. or at least 10%. In fact we are in a better shape than him when he started a business.
I totally agree with NitinBoston.
We have to do something.If things work much better than waiting for GC just head over there. There are tremendous oppurinities available. US GC is not the perfect thing to get in life. People like Dhuribhai Ambani, Tata etc... did not work for their American GC. Keep your eyes open and keep on researching with different options.
Regarding IT, I don't think IT guys can only work on IT. you can study something new, change your field and be someone everybody would respect. Some of them in IV have stuidied in IITs, have double master degrees from US and waiting in a que. Start a business, have some goals rather than predicting about visa bulletin.
Majority of you are from India. In India you can hire engineers at a very low salary. I have employees working for me in India for Rs3.5K a month(non-tech) and Graduate enginers working for a salary of 5K/ month. If some of us can outsource jobs in India we would be millionaires within few years.
We are highly skilled immigrants, Can't we make a group and do conusltancy. The consultancy charges for a hour is $570/- in intoto.com where the actual engineer gets $120/- per hour.
Who would care about anti-immigrants, PD dates, etc.. if we can be someone would be like Dhuribhai Ambani. or at least 10%. In fact we are in a better shape than him when he started a business.
I totally agree with NitinBoston.
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unitednations
03-31 12:16 PM
shailesh;
it is texas case/
it is texas case/
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jthomas
11-02 02:44 PM
With H1B quota getting over in a day. Do u think its going to make a difference. We can just send roses and request for country quota when selecting H1B so H1B guys are not tortured.
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unitednations
04-28 06:32 PM
UN,
Have there been any updates on this case that you are at liberty to share?
Thanks in advance.
nothing yet.
Longest I have seen a 485 denial go without getting reopened is 5 months.
If a person doesn't have h-1b then six months is a magic number. If person overstys six months and uscis ultimately denies it again then person is in terrible situation (3 year bar).
Have there been any updates on this case that you are at liberty to share?
Thanks in advance.
nothing yet.
Longest I have seen a 485 denial go without getting reopened is 5 months.
If a person doesn't have h-1b then six months is a magic number. If person overstys six months and uscis ultimately denies it again then person is in terrible situation (3 year bar).
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Macaca
11-19 12:41 PM
In War on the Middle Class (http://www.amazon.com/War-Middle-Class-Government-Business/dp/0670037923) Lou Dobbs says H1B workers don't pay taxes.
However, H-1B workers are legally required to pay the same taxes as any other US resident, including Social Security and Medicare. Some H-1B workers are not eligible to receive any Social Security or Medicare benefits unless they are able to adjust status to that of permanent resident. However, if their country of citizenship has a tax agreement with the United States, they are able to collect the Social Security they've earned even if they don't gain permanent residency.
In some cases, H-1B workers pay higher taxes than a US citizen because they are not entitled to certain deductions (eg. head of household deduction amongst many others).
Indian techie slams CNN Lou Dobbs! (http://www.indiadaily.com/editorial/10-28a-04.asp) By N. Sivakumar, October 28, 2004
In a book titled "Dude, did I steal your job? Debugging Indian Computer programmers", the author, an Indian software engineer, has slammed Lou Dobbs of CNN for calling the foreign high-tech workers as non-tax payers, and humiliating the enormous contributions of foreign high-tech workforce to the American economy.
"Foreign high-tech workers who come here on H-1B / L1 visas pay every tax that U.S. citizens do, including Social Security and Medicare. But if they return to their homeland, then they will not get any benefits from these programs. The recent recession cost the United States more than half a million foreign high-tech workers who had to return home after paying all these taxes. In fact, Americans owe them money"
The author writes.
"The ignorance to mention the stupendous contributions of immigrant high-tech workers was the primary cause for the anti-Indian atmosphere which is seen among computer professionals lately. Unfortunately, neither the media nor the public understand the foreign high-tech workforce. The net result: those who supported the foreign high-tech worker programs have taken a back seat to play safe, and Indians and others who came here on visas, and worked their butts off to make this country prosper are named 'slaves', 'dummies', and 'enemies'. writes the author, N.Sivakumar.
The book also claims that bringing in foreign high-tech workforce at the right time was the primary reason for America's stupendous high-tech success, and gives statistics and evidence to prove that hadn't America acted quickly, the Europeans would have taken over the software dominance.
The book also outlines the life, struggle and achievements of Indian programmers in America with entertaining facts, and is a prime discussion topic in many anti-outsourcing and immigration websites lately.
However, H-1B workers are legally required to pay the same taxes as any other US resident, including Social Security and Medicare. Some H-1B workers are not eligible to receive any Social Security or Medicare benefits unless they are able to adjust status to that of permanent resident. However, if their country of citizenship has a tax agreement with the United States, they are able to collect the Social Security they've earned even if they don't gain permanent residency.
In some cases, H-1B workers pay higher taxes than a US citizen because they are not entitled to certain deductions (eg. head of household deduction amongst many others).
Indian techie slams CNN Lou Dobbs! (http://www.indiadaily.com/editorial/10-28a-04.asp) By N. Sivakumar, October 28, 2004
In a book titled "Dude, did I steal your job? Debugging Indian Computer programmers", the author, an Indian software engineer, has slammed Lou Dobbs of CNN for calling the foreign high-tech workers as non-tax payers, and humiliating the enormous contributions of foreign high-tech workforce to the American economy.
"Foreign high-tech workers who come here on H-1B / L1 visas pay every tax that U.S. citizens do, including Social Security and Medicare. But if they return to their homeland, then they will not get any benefits from these programs. The recent recession cost the United States more than half a million foreign high-tech workers who had to return home after paying all these taxes. In fact, Americans owe them money"
The author writes.
"The ignorance to mention the stupendous contributions of immigrant high-tech workers was the primary cause for the anti-Indian atmosphere which is seen among computer professionals lately. Unfortunately, neither the media nor the public understand the foreign high-tech workforce. The net result: those who supported the foreign high-tech worker programs have taken a back seat to play safe, and Indians and others who came here on visas, and worked their butts off to make this country prosper are named 'slaves', 'dummies', and 'enemies'. writes the author, N.Sivakumar.
The book also claims that bringing in foreign high-tech workforce at the right time was the primary reason for America's stupendous high-tech success, and gives statistics and evidence to prove that hadn't America acted quickly, the Europeans would have taken over the software dominance.
The book also outlines the life, struggle and achievements of Indian programmers in America with entertaining facts, and is a prime discussion topic in many anti-outsourcing and immigration websites lately.
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Dipika
10-27 02:41 PM
For all of you who have got standard responses from USCIS, please do something about it. Call the local senator, file DHS-7001 with CIS Ombudsman, send a letter to USCIS secretary Napolatino, call TSC using POJ method, etc, etc.
If you are current, they need to look at your file. Case under review means nothing at all....my case was under review since July 20, 2009. Finally, i found out that my file was sitting in the storage and collecting dust.
As other previous posters have mentioned, you should try calling TSC/NSC on Thursday/Friday evening. I found out that the IOs were in a better mood, as compared to my calls on other days (specially in the morning/afternoon).
If you need details on the IO I talked to, I can provide it to you offline. I am still trying to reach that IO (need to say a big thank you) but have been unable to talk to him/her so far.
you are right. i sent letter to senator before 2 month, no response yet. i have sent letter to congress man before 2 weeks and sent letter to USCIS secretary Napolatino. let's see what happen.
If you are current, they need to look at your file. Case under review means nothing at all....my case was under review since July 20, 2009. Finally, i found out that my file was sitting in the storage and collecting dust.
As other previous posters have mentioned, you should try calling TSC/NSC on Thursday/Friday evening. I found out that the IOs were in a better mood, as compared to my calls on other days (specially in the morning/afternoon).
If you need details on the IO I talked to, I can provide it to you offline. I am still trying to reach that IO (need to say a big thank you) but have been unable to talk to him/her so far.
you are right. i sent letter to senator before 2 month, no response yet. i have sent letter to congress man before 2 weeks and sent letter to USCIS secretary Napolatino. let's see what happen.
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logiclife
05-01 05:05 PM
So what happens now? Does this affect QGA's involvement with us?
No, not right away.
But we will need to have more fund-raising drives and initiatives again to meet the ultimate target of 200K.
Please pitch in ideas for local fund-raising events and organize local events to collect checks from your friends and colleagues.
No, not right away.
But we will need to have more fund-raising drives and initiatives again to meet the ultimate target of 200K.
Please pitch in ideas for local fund-raising events and organize local events to collect checks from your friends and colleagues.
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dummgelauft
09-03 09:24 AM
Thanks for the detailed information.
I have a unique situation here. My original GC sponsor (a multi billion dollar industry leader) laid me off after 6 months of I485 due to lack of position in the company.
I ported my GC using AC 21 and joined another small consulting company. Now my GC is approved and I have an offer in hand from another company.
Will it be a good idea to move or do I have to wait for 6 months or 1 year before I make an employment switch.
My most important consideration is that there is chance of potential loss of job (may god forbid) with the current position. I may be able to save myself by switiching job right now. And of course there is more money on the table.
You are not with your sponsoring employer anyways, so take the new offer if you want. A piece of advice though, for such critical decisions, it is best to spend some money and consult an attorney, rather than muck about on IV and such. An hours consultation ( which all you should need), will cost you u2 may be 3 hundred dollars, but you will get proper advice.
I have a unique situation here. My original GC sponsor (a multi billion dollar industry leader) laid me off after 6 months of I485 due to lack of position in the company.
I ported my GC using AC 21 and joined another small consulting company. Now my GC is approved and I have an offer in hand from another company.
Will it be a good idea to move or do I have to wait for 6 months or 1 year before I make an employment switch.
My most important consideration is that there is chance of potential loss of job (may god forbid) with the current position. I may be able to save myself by switiching job right now. And of course there is more money on the table.
You are not with your sponsoring employer anyways, so take the new offer if you want. A piece of advice though, for such critical decisions, it is best to spend some money and consult an attorney, rather than muck about on IV and such. An hours consultation ( which all you should need), will cost you u2 may be 3 hundred dollars, but you will get proper advice.
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jingi1234
01-28 10:09 AM
Was this the first time you are coming to USA?
or you went for a visit ? If yes what was ur original status in US..F1 or H1.
I am going for chennai H1B visa on Feb 6....F1 to OPT to H1B...Scared to helll...
I appeared for an interview on Jan 2nd. It took the consulate officers 16 days to call me and ask for original documents again. Darn PIMS verification! I resubmitted the documents on Jan 22nd through the drop box... and have been calling them daily to track the progress. They say they need 7 working days from the day the documents are received. I have already had to reschedule the flights once..and my employer is getting worried now. If I had known about the delays at Chennai post before, I wont have applied here. Chennai sux!!!
or you went for a visit ? If yes what was ur original status in US..F1 or H1.
I am going for chennai H1B visa on Feb 6....F1 to OPT to H1B...Scared to helll...
I appeared for an interview on Jan 2nd. It took the consulate officers 16 days to call me and ask for original documents again. Darn PIMS verification! I resubmitted the documents on Jan 22nd through the drop box... and have been calling them daily to track the progress. They say they need 7 working days from the day the documents are received. I have already had to reschedule the flights once..and my employer is getting worried now. If I had known about the delays at Chennai post before, I wont have applied here. Chennai sux!!!
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americandesi
07-27 02:45 PM
Hey
you have any link to the memo?
http://www.visaportal.com/downloads/Yates%20Memo%20ability%20to%20pay.pdf
you have any link to the memo?
http://www.visaportal.com/downloads/Yates%20Memo%20ability%20to%20pay.pdf
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Brightsider
07-16 05:36 PM
All,
AILA has a template of a letter/email to Congress members that can be used to express support for visa recapture and immigration reform.
Please check out
AILA - Web Resources (http://capwiz.com/aila2/issues/alert/?alertid=13300836&type=CO)
You may like to modify the message to suit your life situation and preferences. For example, instead of undocumented aliens, I used the opportunity to stress the difficulties of employment-based applicants. While I have nothing against them, it is my belief that I need to stress my own problem and seek a resolution.
And, I have also forwarded the link and my mail to all my friends who are waiting for green cards. More importantly, I have asked my relatives and friends, who are citizens or who have green cards, to pitch in and write for our sake.
My suggestion, should you agree with the above, is not only to write to your Congress members but also ask your relatives and friends to do likewise.
Best wishes
AILA has a template of a letter/email to Congress members that can be used to express support for visa recapture and immigration reform.
Please check out
AILA - Web Resources (http://capwiz.com/aila2/issues/alert/?alertid=13300836&type=CO)
You may like to modify the message to suit your life situation and preferences. For example, instead of undocumented aliens, I used the opportunity to stress the difficulties of employment-based applicants. While I have nothing against them, it is my belief that I need to stress my own problem and seek a resolution.
And, I have also forwarded the link and my mail to all my friends who are waiting for green cards. More importantly, I have asked my relatives and friends, who are citizens or who have green cards, to pitch in and write for our sake.
My suggestion, should you agree with the above, is not only to write to your Congress members but also ask your relatives and friends to do likewise.
Best wishes
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logiclife
04-07 11:14 AM
So we have an amendment that deals with Immigration Voice's goals - http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=521. Now what?
The Brownback amendment that benefits all of us in one way or other is on the table for the immigration bill(Specter’s, Frist’s whichever). Thanks to Senator Brownback, his staff, our counsel QGA, our friends in AZ and PA(not in core IV team) who played a key role in convincing the staff and Senator about our problems and solutions and MOST IMPORTANTLY - YOU - the volunteers and members who supported this operation financially and morally.
Friends, the game has just begun. The fun part, the challenging part comes now. Those who are familiar with S 1932 know that the real deal is the house-senate conference committee IF the immigration bill gets any traction in Senate post recess. In a rare event that immigration bill is ignored this year, we need to focus on getting these amendments in other bills like PACE act, TALENT bill etc. Immigration Voice’s morale is like DURACELL – IT NEVER DIES. NEVER NEVER NEVER.
So , before we open that Champagne bottle let's make sure that we are ready for the next stages in this effort:
1. Getting majority of Senators to vote "Yes" on our amendment.
2. Getting the opposing amendments to defeat the good stuff out of the senate bill.
3. Protecting this amendment in the House-Senate Conference Committee.
4. Defeating the harmful provisions that may be injected by more creative minds in the House during House-Senate Conf.
5. Continued efforts to find another bill for our provisions if the immigration bill fails. (Unlikely because of millions of undocumented workers holding rallies. Something WILL HAPPEN).
All this is going to take lobbying, grass-roots efforts and a lot of work.
So now, we regroup. We gain strength. Lend a hand to the fence-sitters to join us. Convince the NAYSAYERS that this works. And we raise more funds.
Today, IV Core group sincerely requests members to whole-heartedly contribute just like you contributed before. Let's give this movement a momentum so strong and powerful that its invincible. Let us get all hands on deck.
THE GOAL:
The goal is to raise another 75,000 in 25 days. That will bring the total contributions to around 150,000 by the first of May.
We have always asked people to contribute whole-heartedly as this is a non-profit operation, no core member or volunteer makes any money on this and we are accountable to IRS due to our non-profit tax status. We have always done EVERYTHING LEGALLY and will continue to do things legally. If in doubt, please visit the menu "Lobbying and the Law" on the homepage. Remember, the core members want their greencards too and they wouldnt be doing things that are illegal and risk their own greencard applications.
Conribute and be a part of most successful organized effort ever done by a bunch of high-skills legal immigrants. Be a part of movement that will make you proud for the rest of your life. Something to tell your children about. A few hundred dollars saved by not contributing will not make you happier. I can guarantee you that. The money I contributed to IV has been the most well-spent amount in 6 years of my time in US. And dont ever rely on "Others will do it and I can evade this as one person wont make difference" will NEVER WORK. It never does. If you think that there are friends that are affected by retrogression then call them, show them the amendment and tell them to stand up and support this.
Thanks, and make this another successful round of donations. Here is a link to our contributions page - http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=26&Itemid=44
--logiclife.
The Brownback amendment that benefits all of us in one way or other is on the table for the immigration bill(Specter’s, Frist’s whichever). Thanks to Senator Brownback, his staff, our counsel QGA, our friends in AZ and PA(not in core IV team) who played a key role in convincing the staff and Senator about our problems and solutions and MOST IMPORTANTLY - YOU - the volunteers and members who supported this operation financially and morally.
Friends, the game has just begun. The fun part, the challenging part comes now. Those who are familiar with S 1932 know that the real deal is the house-senate conference committee IF the immigration bill gets any traction in Senate post recess. In a rare event that immigration bill is ignored this year, we need to focus on getting these amendments in other bills like PACE act, TALENT bill etc. Immigration Voice’s morale is like DURACELL – IT NEVER DIES. NEVER NEVER NEVER.
So , before we open that Champagne bottle let's make sure that we are ready for the next stages in this effort:
1. Getting majority of Senators to vote "Yes" on our amendment.
2. Getting the opposing amendments to defeat the good stuff out of the senate bill.
3. Protecting this amendment in the House-Senate Conference Committee.
4. Defeating the harmful provisions that may be injected by more creative minds in the House during House-Senate Conf.
5. Continued efforts to find another bill for our provisions if the immigration bill fails. (Unlikely because of millions of undocumented workers holding rallies. Something WILL HAPPEN).
All this is going to take lobbying, grass-roots efforts and a lot of work.
So now, we regroup. We gain strength. Lend a hand to the fence-sitters to join us. Convince the NAYSAYERS that this works. And we raise more funds.
Today, IV Core group sincerely requests members to whole-heartedly contribute just like you contributed before. Let's give this movement a momentum so strong and powerful that its invincible. Let us get all hands on deck.
THE GOAL:
The goal is to raise another 75,000 in 25 days. That will bring the total contributions to around 150,000 by the first of May.
We have always asked people to contribute whole-heartedly as this is a non-profit operation, no core member or volunteer makes any money on this and we are accountable to IRS due to our non-profit tax status. We have always done EVERYTHING LEGALLY and will continue to do things legally. If in doubt, please visit the menu "Lobbying and the Law" on the homepage. Remember, the core members want their greencards too and they wouldnt be doing things that are illegal and risk their own greencard applications.
Conribute and be a part of most successful organized effort ever done by a bunch of high-skills legal immigrants. Be a part of movement that will make you proud for the rest of your life. Something to tell your children about. A few hundred dollars saved by not contributing will not make you happier. I can guarantee you that. The money I contributed to IV has been the most well-spent amount in 6 years of my time in US. And dont ever rely on "Others will do it and I can evade this as one person wont make difference" will NEVER WORK. It never does. If you think that there are friends that are affected by retrogression then call them, show them the amendment and tell them to stand up and support this.
Thanks, and make this another successful round of donations. Here is a link to our contributions page - http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=26&Itemid=44
--logiclife.
calboy78
08-14 02:31 AM
Yes, that is right, I said “plight of EB2-India”.
I am a passive observer of these forums. But some of the ridiculous notions floating around here have motivated me to vent. First and foremost, the law as written is highly favorable to people in EB3 categories, even from India. Here is how...
Take my example (and there are thousands like myself)....came to the US 8 years ago, spent 5 years working day and night to earn a PhD on a low (barely sustainable) stipend, got FIRST job saw decent money for the first time 6 years after I came.
Now, compare this to a person working an EB3-job for the last 8 years. Not only does this person do a real job that hopefully provides a respectable income but this person also has the option of moving to EB2 after 5 years of experience. So, at the end of the day in 2008; this person comes out ahead of me in terms of money, in terms of priority date (if ported) and most likely in terms of GC.
There are complaints all over the forum which have the stink of pretentiousness such as “oh..i am a poor EB3 waiting for n number of years” etc etc. What you guys seem to forget is that YOU are NOT an EB3, it is your JOB that is EB3. You have all the opportunities that were/are available to a person who sweated it out in the university system here to gain more qualifications and get an EB2 job. You CHOSE not to. The general discussion seems to center around cribbing about the US immigration system (Immigration by the way is a privilege defined by laws, not a birthright) and then blaming the EB2 crowd when they finally see the system implement the law as intended in the first place (horizontal spillover rules).
All these posts that refer to “my career is over because my gc is delayed” are nothing but a pathetic excuse. Law of supply and demand....if you have a skillset that is valuable, you will be fine with or without GC anywhere in the world. It takes a bunch of documents to remain here legally, all you need is a passport to go back if the system here seems so bad.
For all the attacks that are bound to happen, here is the fodder.....this is probably my first and last post, I haven’t contributed a dime to IV, will work here as long as I like it and if not, India is a great country and provides enough opportunities for any skillset !!
Now, compare this to a person working an EB3-job for the last 8 years. Not only does this person do a real job that hopefully provides a respectable income but this person also has the option of moving to EB2 after 5 years of experience. So, at the end of the day in 2008; this person comes out ahead of me in terms of money, in terms of priority date (if ported) and most likely in terms of GC.
IMHO -
Your arguments don't hold water because:
=> With a PhD - one can get GC very soon because EB1 is mostly current...so don't say that EB3 are cutting in line.
=> Yes, in his first month PhD can't save as much as the one who had been working full time but in long term a PhD does and will.
This person has an option of moving to EB2 BUT it is not easy as it sounds ..if person stays with same company, they will be reluctant to file his GC from scratch in EB2...going to another company has its own risk.
=> Then - why the hell EB3 guy did not choose to do his PhD ? - Well, people do things depending upon circumstances ..they might have family with 2 kids...they can't do PhD with that bare minimum stipend; They might be going along the waves. May be the person is smart and doing work of a PhD already (don't tell me that EB3 people can't do a PhD job ...I have seen people with Bachelor's degree outsmarting PhDs).
Just because EB3 people did not do PhD - one can't justify their suffering ..they are suffering and its not justified.
=> There might be very very VERY few people who said “my career is over because my gc is delayed” !
Because of delayed GC, people can't make important decision of their life - like where to stay? In US, In India? where to buy house etc?
And lastly - I am an EB2; AND in near future planning to move back to India - losing the GC - so I am not speaking in favor of EB3 people because I am EB3 or I am just dying to be in US .. however I am speaking in favor of "what is right". It is not right to screw people by putting them in such a big limbo ...get their GC in 7 to 10 years.
Try to put yourself in these shoes - After taking all the required courses and passing your thesis ...if somone grills you for another 7 years before giving you the status of "PhD" ..how would it fill like ? Like a "bicentenary man" (Watch the movie, if you haven't)!!
btw...
You said:
What else could be expected?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem
Attack the argument, not the argumentor.
And in your own words
(Hingish...you are an idiot and it is quite obvious from what you had to say, which was absolutely pointless)
You aren't following your own rules - confused ?
- Nothing personal - What's right is right !
I am a passive observer of these forums. But some of the ridiculous notions floating around here have motivated me to vent. First and foremost, the law as written is highly favorable to people in EB3 categories, even from India. Here is how...
Take my example (and there are thousands like myself)....came to the US 8 years ago, spent 5 years working day and night to earn a PhD on a low (barely sustainable) stipend, got FIRST job saw decent money for the first time 6 years after I came.
Now, compare this to a person working an EB3-job for the last 8 years. Not only does this person do a real job that hopefully provides a respectable income but this person also has the option of moving to EB2 after 5 years of experience. So, at the end of the day in 2008; this person comes out ahead of me in terms of money, in terms of priority date (if ported) and most likely in terms of GC.
There are complaints all over the forum which have the stink of pretentiousness such as “oh..i am a poor EB3 waiting for n number of years” etc etc. What you guys seem to forget is that YOU are NOT an EB3, it is your JOB that is EB3. You have all the opportunities that were/are available to a person who sweated it out in the university system here to gain more qualifications and get an EB2 job. You CHOSE not to. The general discussion seems to center around cribbing about the US immigration system (Immigration by the way is a privilege defined by laws, not a birthright) and then blaming the EB2 crowd when they finally see the system implement the law as intended in the first place (horizontal spillover rules).
All these posts that refer to “my career is over because my gc is delayed” are nothing but a pathetic excuse. Law of supply and demand....if you have a skillset that is valuable, you will be fine with or without GC anywhere in the world. It takes a bunch of documents to remain here legally, all you need is a passport to go back if the system here seems so bad.
For all the attacks that are bound to happen, here is the fodder.....this is probably my first and last post, I haven’t contributed a dime to IV, will work here as long as I like it and if not, India is a great country and provides enough opportunities for any skillset !!
Now, compare this to a person working an EB3-job for the last 8 years. Not only does this person do a real job that hopefully provides a respectable income but this person also has the option of moving to EB2 after 5 years of experience. So, at the end of the day in 2008; this person comes out ahead of me in terms of money, in terms of priority date (if ported) and most likely in terms of GC.
IMHO -
Your arguments don't hold water because:
=> With a PhD - one can get GC very soon because EB1 is mostly current...so don't say that EB3 are cutting in line.
=> Yes, in his first month PhD can't save as much as the one who had been working full time but in long term a PhD does and will.
This person has an option of moving to EB2 BUT it is not easy as it sounds ..if person stays with same company, they will be reluctant to file his GC from scratch in EB2...going to another company has its own risk.
=> Then - why the hell EB3 guy did not choose to do his PhD ? - Well, people do things depending upon circumstances ..they might have family with 2 kids...they can't do PhD with that bare minimum stipend; They might be going along the waves. May be the person is smart and doing work of a PhD already (don't tell me that EB3 people can't do a PhD job ...I have seen people with Bachelor's degree outsmarting PhDs).
Just because EB3 people did not do PhD - one can't justify their suffering ..they are suffering and its not justified.
=> There might be very very VERY few people who said “my career is over because my gc is delayed” !
Because of delayed GC, people can't make important decision of their life - like where to stay? In US, In India? where to buy house etc?
And lastly - I am an EB2; AND in near future planning to move back to India - losing the GC - so I am not speaking in favor of EB3 people because I am EB3 or I am just dying to be in US .. however I am speaking in favor of "what is right". It is not right to screw people by putting them in such a big limbo ...get their GC in 7 to 10 years.
Try to put yourself in these shoes - After taking all the required courses and passing your thesis ...if somone grills you for another 7 years before giving you the status of "PhD" ..how would it fill like ? Like a "bicentenary man" (Watch the movie, if you haven't)!!
btw...
You said:
What else could be expected?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem
Attack the argument, not the argumentor.
And in your own words
(Hingish...you are an idiot and it is quite obvious from what you had to say, which was absolutely pointless)
You aren't following your own rules - confused ?
- Nothing personal - What's right is right !
whitecollarslave
01-31 12:08 AM
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